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	Comments on: Deck Tech: Shadowborn Apostle / Athreos &#124; #48	</title>
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		By: Greg Neithamer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Neithamer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2016 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey!
I know I&#039;m very late to the discussion, but I recently decided to build something like this. In my play-testing,  I found that Tendrils of Agony can be an insane finisher if you can keep going off with Edgewalker/Phyrexian Altar and Remembrance, or Thrumming Stone. This works especially well if you have a player who is low on life and they have to keep giving you your Apostles back. Let me know what you think!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!<br />
I know I&#8217;m very late to the discussion, but I recently decided to build something like this. In my play-testing,  I found that Tendrils of Agony can be an insane finisher if you can keep going off with Edgewalker/Phyrexian Altar and Remembrance, or Thrumming Stone. This works especially well if you have a player who is low on life and they have to keep giving you your Apostles back. Let me know what you think!</p>
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		By: John Batal		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Batal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130705&quot;&gt;lovestha&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh shit, I didn&#039;t see the Oracle texts. That makes it way better. Awesome, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130705">lovestha</a>.</p>
<p>Oh shit, I didn&#8217;t see the Oracle texts. That makes it way better. Awesome, thanks.</p>
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		By: lovestha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lovestha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130704&quot;&gt;John Batal&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Dies&quot; is the new shorthand for &quot;is put into graveyard from play&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130704">John Batal</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dies&#8221; is the new shorthand for &#8220;is put into graveyard from play&#8221;</p>
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		By: lovestha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lovestha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130704&quot;&gt;John Batal&lt;/a&gt;.

Look at oracle texts :)


Teysa:
Whenever another black creature you control dies, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

Athreos:
Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.



A bit of a difference on colour and control V owns, but they trigger on the same events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130704">John Batal</a>.</p>
<p>Look at oracle texts 🙂</p>
<p>Teysa:<br />
Whenever another black creature you control dies, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying onto the battlefield.</p>
<p>Athreos:<br />
Whenever another creature you own dies, return it to your hand unless target opponent pays 3 life.</p>
<p>A bit of a difference on colour and control V owns, but they trigger on the same events.</p>
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		By: John Batal		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130704</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Batal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130700&quot;&gt;lovestha&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think so, Athreos triggers on death, teysa only triggers when something is put in the graveyard. So athreos&#039;s trigger would intercept any dead creatures before they hit the yard. Maybe I&#039;m wrong though, IDK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130700">lovestha</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so, Athreos triggers on death, teysa only triggers when something is put in the graveyard. So athreos&#8217;s trigger would intercept any dead creatures before they hit the yard. Maybe I&#8217;m wrong though, IDK.</p>
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		By: lovestha		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lovestha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130641&quot;&gt;John Batal&lt;/a&gt;.

Remember the god is a trigger not a replacement, so you get the spirits either way :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130641">John Batal</a>.</p>
<p>Remember the god is a trigger not a replacement, so you get the spirits either way 🙂</p>
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		By: John Batal		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Batal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about Teysa? It&#039;s maybe not as consistent as Xathrid, but it give much greater incentive for people to give you your apostles back. 


If you&#039;ve got Athreos out, enemy options after a sac are basically give you the cards back, or take 18 damage, give you 6 1/1 fliers, and the option to destroy two creatures. 


Odds are you&#039;ll get the apostles back, which means you can just keep pulling out bigger and better demons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Teysa? It&#8217;s maybe not as consistent as Xathrid, but it give much greater incentive for people to give you your apostles back. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got Athreos out, enemy options after a sac are basically give you the cards back, or take 18 damage, give you 6 1/1 fliers, and the option to destroy two creatures. </p>
<p>Odds are you&#8217;ll get the apostles back, which means you can just keep pulling out bigger and better demons.</p>
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		By: Josh Lee Kwai		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Lee Kwai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130606&quot;&gt;Ash Breier&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the suggestion!  It&#039;s a pretty good idea although I wish it was a little more targeted and less &quot;hit everyone at the table&quot; just because I&#039;m not sure the deck can handle making a lot of different players mad.  Still I like how you&#039;re thinking.  Good idea!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130606">Ash Breier</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion!  It&#8217;s a pretty good idea although I wish it was a little more targeted and less &#8220;hit everyone at the table&#8221; just because I&#8217;m not sure the deck can handle making a lot of different players mad.  Still I like how you&#8217;re thinking.  Good idea!</p>
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		By: Ash Breier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey! I recently found this podcast, and absolutely love it. One card I thought might be good in this deck is Fate Unraveler, as another way to get some incidental damage through. It seems pretty innocuous so people normally let it stick around for awhile before they kill it. Sadly I can&#039;t think of any hasty power bumping artifacts. Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I recently found this podcast, and absolutely love it. One card I thought might be good in this deck is Fate Unraveler, as another way to get some incidental damage through. It seems pretty innocuous so people normally let it stick around for awhile before they kill it. Sadly I can&#8217;t think of any hasty power bumping artifacts. Good luck!</p>
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		By: Ash Breier		</title>
		<link>https://rocketjump.com/listen/deck-tech-shadowborn-apostle-athreos#comment-130604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ash Breier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, I newly discovered your podcast and absolutely love it. One card that came to my mind as potentially good in this deck is Fate Unraveler, as another way to just get some incidental damage through, when people stop paying life for Athreos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I newly discovered your podcast and absolutely love it. One card that came to my mind as potentially good in this deck is Fate Unraveler, as another way to just get some incidental damage through, when people stop paying life for Athreos.</p>
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